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I'm not a lawyer at all, but it seems to me all those points could easily go both ways.

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8. Expecting me to do your job for you.

1. If I am too careless to do my homework....But if I ask you and you lie to me, bad things happen.


Bit of a contradiction here don't you think?

Lindsay Beyerstein

With all due respect for prosecutors and the tough job they have to do, the following grievance strikes me as pathetic whining:

6. Forgetting I have a boss and office policies. I don't get to make this stuff up as I go. As much as I would like to dismiss the crappy case, I can't. As much as I would like to reduce it to a misdemeanor, I can't. I have a boss. We have office policies. If I want to have this job next week, I have to follow them. Don't like it, then take it up with my boss.

Oh, poor you.

Defense lawyers aren't forgetting, they're serving as the necessary counter-irritant to your petty office politics. (FTR, if it's truly office politics, it's petty and orthogonal to justice, no matter what industry we're talking about.)

If you think a case is worthless and you choose to prosecute it anyway because of office politics, you deserve to have someone rubbing your face in it.

In fact, as a taxpayer, I'm proud to pay a PD to be that person. Actually, that would be right up there with filling potholes on my list of tax dollars well-spent. If it's miserable and expensive for a prosecutor to go through with a worthless case, maybe the prosecutor's office will start rethinking the policies that lead to worthless prosecutions.

Yes, it's your career advancement on the line, but it's potentially years of someone else's life at stake, not to mention untold numbers of tax dollars for the trial. If you've lost sight of that, maybe you should rethink prosecution as a line of work.

honeee

A the risk of sounding rude... Lawyers on both side frequently sound whiney. I have been personal witness to DA's outright lying, as well as Defense counsel(to the defendant!!) I am of the belief that the "justice" system has eroded to the lowest level of simple ego battles between lawyers. It would seem a rare moment when either the interest of the taxpayer or the good of the individual is the most important issue. Case in point: The Prosecutor's (author) criminal assumption of a defendant. Color me crazy, BUT I was under the assumption, in our democratic, Constitutional system that ALL defendants are innocent until PROVEN guilty. It is the prosecutor's job to find the evidence and FACTS that make a case to find guilt. And if the facts don't exist, making them up, bullying or politics are not a good alternative. That may come as a surprise to many in this line of work. That would also explain the large number of exhonerations and even larger figures of unjustly or inappropriately charged and incarcerated individuals. But I digress, I am glad you wrote and listed the issues you did. They apply equally to both sides.

Sojourner Truth

Fantastic post Honeee.

Now onto the anonymous prosecutor - After reading this list, I find that the posting prosecutor is likely unfit to serve.

Making office police the horse that drives you is a big big mistake. For starters, you can be held personally liable for some of this stuff, it it's really egregious.

You serve in the interest of justice, and only justice. You are not supposed to be a tired paper pusher who is annoyed by the fact that in Texas the best criminal attorneys are hands down the one's working for the defense. You are not supposed to be affected in the way you handle cases by how someone acted towards you when the life of the criminally accused (or years of it) is at stake. You obviously have an ego problem, and that is interfering with your work. (See the Act like a bigshot grievance).

Really, I just see alot of whiney excuses that have made Texas injustice (it's not justice) the cesspool that it is. Death by bureaucracy, ego and a lack of personal responsibility, meted out one prosecutor at a time.

You don't have to be a good lawyer to be a prosecutor in Texas, because the state basically does everything it can to subvert the federal civil rights era reforms in the judicial system. How many criminal hearings do we have that give the appearance of probably cause that really don't exist, for example? Unfortunately, this means the prosecutor's aren't kept on their toes, and it shows.

Thank goodness the tide is finally turning in that regard. Thank you Craig Watkins. The office of prosecutor is not meant to be a powertrip, a job entitlement, or an ego booster. It's breathtakingly serious.

Sojourner Truth

Fantastic post Honeee.

Now onto the anonymous prosecutor - After reading this list, I find that the posting prosecutor is likely unfit to serve.

Making office police the horse that drives you is a big big mistake. For starters, you can be held personally liable for some of this stuff, it it's really egregious.

You serve in the interest of justice, and only justice. You are not supposed to be a tired paper pusher who is annoyed by the fact that in Texas the best criminal attorneys are hands down the one's working for the defense. You are not supposed to be affected in the way you handle cases by how someone acted towards you when the life of the criminally accused (or years of it) is at stake. You obviously have an ego problem, and that is interfering with your work. (See the Act like a bigshot grievance).

Really, I just see alot of whiney excuses that have made Texas injustice (it's not justice) the cesspool that it is. Death by bureaucracy, ego and a lack of personal responsibility, meted out one prosecutor at a time.

You don't have to be a good lawyer to be a prosecutor in Texas, because the state basically does everything it can to subvert the federal civil rights era reforms in the judicial system. How many criminal hearings do we have that give the appearance of probably cause that really don't exist, for example? Unfortunately, this means the prosecutor's aren't kept on their toes, and it shows.

Thank goodness the tide is finally turning in that regard. Thank you Craig Watkins. The office of prosecutor is not meant to be a powertrip, a job entitlement, or an ego booster. It's breathtakingly serious.

RegularGuy

I always sit and shake my head when I read one attorney criticizing another attorney.

What was that old saying about the pot calling the kettle black?

The fact is, in order to be an attorney, you have to be amoral. There is no true right or wrong, just a client to represent.

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